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Old School Training – Goblet Squat

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The Goblet Squat “done right” - Maximum Leg Stimulation, Minimum Poundage

A picture is worth a thousand words: excellent depth, positioning, and uprightness - note how he has not “pinched” stance width. Over time, I would attempt to pull his forward knee travel back a few inches; elbows can be tucked between knees. Knees are “pinned” outward on both descent and ascent, assuring “structural integrity” maximizing leg isolation. The descent is controlled, precise, consistent, and “coiled.” The ascent uses one of three preselected rep speeds: grind, regular, explosive. 

After 60 years of squatting I have come to the conclusion that, done right, 80% of the civilian world, those that practice progressive resistance training, those that train their legs and train hard, never need to back squat with a barbell, never need to sit on a leg press or hack machine. There is no need to perform any leg exercise other than deep goblet squats done holding a kettlebell(s,) a dumbbell held vertically, or clutching a barbell plate to the chest. My conclusions about the wonders of Goblet squatting are dependent on my two-word caveat, “done right.”


Most normal people would find that a 50 pound payload in the “done right” Goblet squat, be it K-bell, dumbbell, or barbell plate clutched to the chest, is more than enough to bring them to positive failure in ten reps or less – if the squats are deep and upright. Because of the demanding technique, legs are isolated, maximally worked, all four quadriceps, abductors, adductors, all bought to utter and complete failure in less than ten reps using a small payload. There a no better example of our philosophy of “making light weights heavy.”


If a 50 pound payload handled in a certain fashion can maximally tax the legs, why resort to barbells behind the neck? The safety of the Goblet squat makes it perfect for normal folks – struggle and miss a rep – no problem, simply set the payload down. A proper Goblet squat, deep and upright, is no lame substitute for barbells or machines, to the contrary, a perfect Goblet squat, done deep and taken to the limit, is from a muscle-building, strength-increasing perspective, superior to partial squats done with much heavier payloads.

Shortening the range-of-motion on any exercise inflates the ego while deflating results. The 800 pound gorilla in the room is squat depth: deep squats with lighter payloads are indisputably superior to sky-high squats with heavy payloads. Many a man that partial squats 400 pounds for reps cannot perform 5 reps with 225, ass-on-heels. 

  

Leg power is the key to human power. Build strong legs with hardcore leg training. The greatest leg exercise is deep squatting. The greatest of all progressive resistance exercises are deep squats done for low reps taken to the limit. How you squat is critical. Bend-forward squatting (self-explanatory) dilutes the muscular targeting. Upright torso isolates the legs; the legs (and legs alone) to do all the work. Partials squatting yields partial results; maximum squat depth invokes the maximum number of muscle fiber.


Back squatting is an invitation to bend forward. When you have a barbell behind your neck, nothing is more natural (while squatting down) than to bend forward. When the barbell gets in front of the knees, bad things happen; the spinal column becomes a crane, a long lever with a heavy payload stuck atop, vertebra stretched and strained at the spinal column bend point. Bend-forward squatting pulls the hip higher: the more forward the barbell the higher the hips are pulled. Once the bar is in front of the knees, squatting to parallel is problematic and below parallel impossible. 

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Upright squatting keeps the vertebra stacked atop one another throughout the squat. Upright squatting isolates and stresses thighs and glutes maximally. Deep squatting purposefully puts the lifter in a maximally disadvantaged leverage position. Forward knee travel should be minimized: this is done by sitting back and down on the descent.  Push the knees outward while descending and keep them pinned out while ascending. Do not let the knees collapse inward to slip through the sticking point.


While it is relatively difficult to learn how to properly barbell back squat ultra-deep and upright, it is far less difficult to learn how to front squat deep and upright and less difficult still to learn how to Goblet squat or Dumbbell or Plate squat, deep and upright. The reasons are logical: when the payload is moved from behind the neck to in front of the neck, the lifter finds it far easier to stay upright as the barbell, kettlebell(s) or plate act as a counterbalance on the descent.


Now, instead of the first instinct upon breaking the knees to descend is not to bend forward, rather the first instinct of the front squatter or the Goblet squatter is to stay bolt upright. A barbell front squatter risks having the bar pop off the shoulders and fall to the floor if they insist on forward lean.

Goblet Squat Cliff Notes

How to Squat Deep

Trainees “pinch” their squat stance width. A wider stance allows the gut to descend between the legs. A pinched stance causes the gut to impact the thighs curtailing depth. By finding the right stance width, the gut passes between the thighs enabling maximum depth. Be forewarned, opening the stance width and squatting deep will reveal how shockingly weak legged you actually are. Holding a small K-bell, dumbbell or clutching a barbell plate creates counterbalance that makes deep squatting (correctly) easier than freehand squats.

Ground Zero Paused

What can be done to make the most difficult of all progressive resistance exercises more difficult? Squat maximally deep and pause a beat at the bottom. Our strategy is to inhale during the descent to parallel, then at parallel, the normal “turnaround,” exhale and relax the thighs and glutes. This enables the lifter to bottom-out. Attain max ass-on-heels depth, re-engage the legs and glutes and come erect using one of three preselected rep speeds: grind (purposefully slowed,) regular rep (not slowed/not explosive,) or explosive (invoking compensatory acceleration.)

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Clean a K-bell with two hands, pulling the bell to under the chin. Inhale as you sit back and descend to a point where the upper thighs are indisputably below parallel. Do not squat to parallel, or above parallel, deep depth below parallel is critical. Do not lower yourself to parallel by relaxing leg muscles, pull yourself downward, maintaining muscle tension and the upright torso. Upon reaching the “turnaround,” where descent becomes ascent, ascend using one of the three distinctive rep speeds - grind, regular or explosive.

double kettlebell

Many trainees find the double-kettlebell Goblet squat more comfortable and doable than using a single bell. Clean two K-bells to the shoulders and perch them atop the shoulders throughout the lift. Instead of using strength to hold a lone bell under the chin, two bells are “set” on the shoulders. Squat carefully and deeply. This variation requires the utmost in concentration and uprightness. For the strong trainee the double-bell Goblet enables two more manageable bells perched rather than one monster bell. Grip strength should never be a limiting factor in leg work. If the K-bells or plate becomes awkward, resort to double bells.

dumbbell or plate

Way back before there were kettlebells and before the Goblet squat was invented, hardcore lifters would clutch a barbell plate to their chest and replicated the Goblet squat technique. Often powerlifters would clutch a 45 pound plate or 100 pound plate to their chest and do “plate squats,” usually as a warm-up exercise for barbell front or back squatting. The takeaway is Goblet squats can be done with one or two kettlebells, a dumbbell, or a barbell plate. The tool is secondary to the technique.

The prerequisite to proper barbell front squatting is to become adept in the Goblet squat. Our trainees are taught to Goblet or plate squat until they are capable of handling 50+ pounds of resistance. Once the trainee is capable excellent technique using 50+ pounds, they can shift to the barbell front squat done with the empty 45 pound bar. The classical double-fist grip for grabbing the barbell is highly preferred over the “cross-hand” bodybuilding-style grip. The goal is replicating Goblet squat technique on the front squat.

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To barbell back squat, or not barbell back squat, that is the question.

All squat Hamlets need pose themselves this key question. Better to not back squat than back squat wrong. Use the Goblet squat as a prerequisite to front and back squatting. For personal trainers, the Goblet squat is a godsend from the poundage and safety standpoint. If results, i.e., the acquisition of muscle and strength, are equal – why not go with the safer, lighter variant? I maintain that, compared to bend-forward sky-high barbell squats, obtain superior results with a lesser poundage practicing the far safer Goblet squat. It is an intriguing proposition for the open-minded.  


Check out the resources below for more training information on squatting and the other Core4 lifts.

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  • I am sold on Marty’s techniques. As a recreational lifter, I have been chasing numbers, but now am embracing “weak as a kitten” in order to strengthen my body properly (especially in the squat).

    Goblet squats help me during warmups, to drill into my head the proper angles, depth, and quadriceps activation for my barbell squatting. I start out with doorway assisted squats, then go to light goblet squats, then on to the barbell.

    For programming, I have been using Marty’s 3-day-per-week 50/75/100 template with good results.

    Is there a programming template for and older guy, which includes heavy kettlebell work (goblet/front squats/overhead press/push press, etc) in addition to heavy barbell work for functional strength? I have The Purposeful Primitive, and Strong Medicine books for reference.

    Thanks!

  • Reread this article. Great content. After working 31 years in construction ( fire sprinkler fitter) I CANT back squat anymore. My shoulder hurts too much just getting into position. This article is so relevant to me. Thanks

    • Hey there Robert,
      Thanks so much for taking the time to leave us a comment. So important to stay in the progressive resistance game especially later in life. Glad we could provide a squatting alternative to keep you moving forward.

  • Great article and I appreciate the content. Goblet squats, indeed, keep you ‘honest.’ I just barely eked out 10 reps with the 28kg. So I now can’t help but think why I’m doing anything else???

  • This is great information for me. I have kept goblet squats as the main course of my leg workouts for the last few years. Had thought that I was working myself up to getting a bar behind my back for a back squat again, which has been difficult due to rotator cuff surgery (very limited external rotation) on both shoulders. Now I am feeling confident that goblet squats done correctly are going to be sufficient for me.

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